(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[150]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
GN[60th Polymetal European Go Congress, Round 2, Podpera L. - Jabarin A.]PW[ Lukas Podpera]PB[Ali Jabarin]WR[7d]BR[1p]DT[2016-07-25]EV[European Go Championship]RO[2]PC[Russia St.Petersburg Azimut hotel]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pp]
;W[pd]
;B[dq]
;W[dd]
;B[cf]
;W[do]C[egc6 [?\]: ustre.am/amX
taranw [4d?\]: go Ali!
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;B[fc]
;W[fd]
;B[gd]
;W[fe]
;B[ec]
;W[dc]
;B[ge]
;W[df]
;B[dg]
;W[ce]
;B[ef]
;W[de]C[SIscurge [4d\]: Lukan you didn't make the box shape :(
nidza92 [-\]: this looks bad for w, he got sealed in
SIscurge [4d\]: after g16 d14 d13 f14 
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;B[ff]
;W[gf]C[nidza92 [-\]: f14 should be at g14, imo
martin97 [-\]: thats what the pro played :)
martin97 [-\]: g14 c1 d12 b14
Tsuke [2d\]: I see some minor flaws in the b wall
Tsuke [2d\]: e12 here?
Tsuke [2d\]: b will still be left with ugly shape but..
]
;B[hf]
;W[gg]C[SIscurge [4d\]: I also think 14 should be at g14, now maybe e13?
nidza92 [-\]: this looks bad for black now
Francisco [4d\]: B connected c13.
]
;B[cg]C[SIscurge [4d\]: locally the corner is alive?
]
;W[cj]C[taranw [4d?\]: i doubt white can win a liberty race with inside plays if black outside is all solid
gogonuts [3d\]: not alive when the bamboo is filled
darkronin [2k?\]: really? a 4th line corner? insane
]
;B[fh]C[gogonuts [3d\]: you can't block both hanes if you don't have any libs
darkronin [2k?\]: taking notes
darkronin [2k?\]: oh, yes, it's pretty straightforward if you focus only on that variation
darkronin [2k?\]: i must remember to start reading something starting from the simplest variation :-)
]
;W[hg]C[SIscurge [4d\]: Idk from the hane point of view it looks like at least ko
TurtleDove [2d?\]: how long ago since this game start please ?
darkronin [2k?\]: i think 1 hour because i connected 30 mins ago and everything was already around move 20
TurtleDove [2d?\]: ok, thank you. I miscalculated time zones and arrived late
darkronin [2k?\]: me too, was sure this was due to begin in half an hour
gogonuts [3d\]: everything started on time, scandalous :-)
TurtleDove [2d?\]: which plays is B looking at ? j14 ? b17 ?
]
;B[if]C[ptitlou [2d\]: stream is frozen ?
Epithany [6k\]: I think just slow pace
gogonuts [3d\]: 1 frame every 15 minutes?
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;W[ig]
;B[jf]
;W[di]
;B[eh]
;W[hj]C[SIscurge [4d\]: this was a difficult move to play for white
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;B[fj]C[TurtleDove [2d?\]: I like d8. leave B with the problem 
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;W[dl]C[martin97 [-\]: long thinking ^^
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;B[db]
;W[cb]
;B[cc]C[RobertT [-\]: oh, very nice
martin97 [-\]: that sure was worth the waiting
Song17 [4d\]: :)
RobertT [-\]: black being connected makes this position very difficult for white
]
;W[eb]
;B[da]C[Thundergod [6d\]: This is close to game over
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;W[fb]
;B[gc]
;W[bc]C[martin97 [-\]: why not e16 b?
TurtleDove [2d?\]: I guess W lets B capture 2 stones at f15 so he can live himself
ozjohn [1k?\]: doesn't need to
ozjohn [1k?\]: imho
svasdvas: vov
martin97 [-\]: so c5 now? or f4?
SIscurge [4d\]: I dunno, to me it looks b failed here
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;B[bb]C[martin97 [-\]: b can b18 later
martin97 [-\]: hm or directly :D
miao [6d\]: lol
miao [6d\]: i saw that
miao [6d\]: but it seems crazyyy
martin97 [-\]: thats why i wanted it for later ^^
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;W[cd]C[miao [6d\]: later when? :)
martin97 [-\]: its ko right? so later when you have threats 
miao [6d\]: i think there will not be a later
miao [6d\]: h16 beacame weak enough to take another gote
martin97 [-\]: h16?
]
;B[ba]C[svasdvas: l
svasdvas: ,
miao [6d\]: resign
miao [6d\]: :)
miao [6d\]: wow
miao [6d\]: both have only one local ko threat
miao [6d\]: white has to start the ko
]
;W[ea]
;B[ca]C[zazie [2d?\]: you don't play, Lukas?
]
;W[ab]
;B[cc]
;W[gb]C[Fuseques [?\]: which local ko threat does b have?
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;B[hb]C[Fuseques [?\]: he has bigger stuff than e15 imo
martin97 [-\]: h11 and d9 i would choose
Fuseques [?\]: ye..
martin97 [-\]: not local but terrifiying
]
;W[cb]C[floating [1k?\]: this whol corner is b overplay and w leading?
Fuseques [?\]: w also has f13 no?
Fuseques [?\]: seems big enough
martin97 [-\]: but after f13 b can threaten to directly capture those stones
wade [5d\]: f13 is 1 lib less for b not the best result here no?
Fuseques [?\]: capture with h12 and k12?
wade [5d\]: k13 and j12 looks better
martin97 [-\]: after f13 e13 b can k13 as threat
Fuseques [?\]: so b has to start with d9
martin97 [-\]: yep
]
;B[hi]C[grehn: h11 suddenly makes me hungry
Fuseques [?\]: oh well i guess w still can't f13 even after answering thsi
martin97 [-\]: but k12 captures
martin97 [-\]: yes
Fuseques [?\]: b can even answer b14 probablty
TurtleDove [2d?\]: since B needs another play, W would get sente and corner alive. may choose that
grehn: yes turtle that is usually the nature of a ko threat that you need a follow-up move. Sharp observation
SIscurge [4d\]: w thinking about h17?
elligain [2k\]: if W takes A19, B would play k12 or k11 ?
tuquedenne [2d?\]: probably j11
elligain [2k\]: thanks
martin97 [-\]: k12 captures
elligain [2k\]: yes, capture but with bad shape
martin97 [-\]: still better
martin97 [-\]: upper side also has some shape issue
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;W[aa]
;B[jh]C[martin97 [-\]: i think connecting is more important
elligain [2k\]: ok :)
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;W[qn]C[floating [1k?\]: not too bad looking for b?
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;B[nq]
;W[pj]
;B[nc]
;W[qf]C[RobertT [-\]: its good for black
]
;B[cp]
;W[co]
;B[fq]
;W[jg]
;B[kg]C[Fuseques [?\]: hmmm
YoungPro [6d\]: this looks like game over?
RobertT [-\]: it seems like a hard game for white for a while now
gosei [2d\]: after the push he must come out some how or its just over
]
;W[kf]
;B[kh]C[RobertT [-\]: he just wants forcing moves on the outside
RobertT [-\]: to hurt o17
Fuseques [?\]: ruining some aji on the way..
grehn: j16 
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;W[id]C[grehn: this lukas guy is good
gosei [2d\]: :)
elligain [2k\]: this is why i dislike the k12-shape
svasdvas: .
]
;B[he]C[DepoK [9k?\]: black way to solid
grehn: h17 squeeze looks nasty
]
;W[ke]C[grehn: b in pain
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;B[ic]
;W[kc]
;B[ne]
;W[mf]
;B[nf]
;W[lg]C[Weishenme [4d\]: m13 good for g11 aji also
Weishenme [4d\]: g11 h12 g12 g10 j12 j11 k11 j10 l11 
Weishenme [4d\]: but b's turn...
RobertT [-\]: g11 j11
Weishenme [4d\]: ok then w can cut f10 stone
]
;B[ng]
;W[lh]
;B[ih]C[RobertT [-\]: gote cut and black can always extend that f10 stone to make h10 stones weak
Song17 [4d\]: b has enough aji to live?
Song17 [4d\]: seems like it shouldn't be a problem, but kind of stressful too
]
;W[mi]
;B[qg]
;W[pg]
;B[pf]C[Song17 [4d\]: q18 is kind of a sente eye for b, isn't it?
TurtleDove [2d?\]: I thought B would q18 instead of r13. but if this works it should be better cos it reduces W right side points and n11 remains unsettled
]
;W[pe]
;B[ph]
;W[of]C[Song17 [4d\]: yeah.. point-wise it's pretty close atm, so b wouldn't like just to live
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;B[og]C[Song17 [4d\]: living and leaving w to worry about fixing all the stuff on the right half of the board should favour b
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;W[rg]
;B[pf]
;W[gi]C[Song17 [4d\]: j10 ?
melmak: this is a threat?
]
;B[gh]
;W[pg]
;B[qh]C[Song17 [4d\]: p11 ?
Song17 [4d\]: g11 was a threat
Song17 [4d\]: g12 g10 j11 worked
melmak: what if ignored
]
;W[rh]
;B[pf]C[grehn: if ignored the game would be over
]
;W[qi]
;B[pb]
;W[qc]
;B[qb]C[Song17 [4d\]: seems like w managed fairly well.. should be close...
]
;W[rb]C[Song17 [4d\]: what's the right way to cut?
zaphodb [3d\]: always cut first, think later
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;B[pc]
;W[rd]C[Song17 [4d\]: but which cut??
Song17 [4d\]: o11/p10/p11/o10 
]
;B[od]C[Song17 [4d\]: p6 ?
YoungPro [6d\]: this looks pretty good for w now mhm
]
;W[mk]
;B[oe]C[Fuseques [?\]: yeee.. w ahead
]
;W[qe]
;B[rp]C[martin97 [-\]: ali wont lose this game :D
Fuseques [?\]: well this is around the time ali usually start turning games around
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;W[ro]
;B[qo]
;W[rn]
;B[pn]
;W[pm]
;B[om]
;W[qq]
;B[qp]
;W[on]
;B[po]C[Fuseques [?\]: b needs like 40 points on the bottom
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;W[pl]
;B[qm]
;W[rm]
;B[ol]
;W[pk]
;B[nn]C[Song17 [4d\]: certainly won't be easy..
Song17 [4d\]: b ran out of groups to abuse
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;W[bp]
;B[bq]
;W[dp]
;B[cq]
;W[mq]
;B[mr]
;W[lr]C[Song17 [4d\]: how's their time?
GodofGo [6d\]: w has close to 60
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;B[lq]C[Song17 [4d\]: min?
GodofGo [6d\]: b maybe slightly less in points but that is without counting bottom
]
;W[mp]C[GodofGo [6d\]: as in i only counted the corners
Song17 [4d\]: connect
Song17 [4d\]: no good ladder breaker
SIscurge [4d\]: w doesnt need to ladder break immediatly 
Song17 [4d\]: although the corner is not as big as the rest
]
;B[nr]C[Song17 [4d\]: and w couldn't kill anything if b played l2 
Song17 [4d\]: I sense an attachment coming
jwc [-\]: g3?
]
;W[gq]C[Song17 [4d\]: :D
jwc [-\]: :)
]
;B[fp]
;W[kr]C[grehn: do you like song 2?
Song17 [4d\]: not really.. I like song 17
Song17 [4d\]: for some reason I think l3 would be a good choice
Epithany [6k\]: O4 is too unrealistic?
Song17 [4d\]: if b m4 w can get pretty good shape (somehow, I'm sure :P )
Song17 [4d\]: what will o4 do?
Song17 [4d\]: w is ready to give away the 2 stones
martin97 [-\]: k3 looks like the intuitive place
Song17 [4d\]: I think w can get very nice shape after k3
Song17 [4d\]: k3 l3 m4 k4 
martin97 [-\]: after l3 l4 or j3, not sure
Song17 [4d\]: or perhaps you intend to not go out at m4 ?
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;B[kq]C[Song17 [4d\]: ha!
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;W[jq]C[martin97 [-\]: i think k3 l3 j3
martin97 [-\]: this feels weird
Song17 [4d\]: but like this g3 is not in such a good spot
]
;B[lo]C[Song17 [4d\]: j2 k2 g2 would be nice
martin97 [-\]: f4 in an even worse spot i think
]
;W[gr]
;B[jp]C[Song17 [4d\]: why?
Song17 [4d\]: it's all out and affecting everything
]
;W[iq]
;B[bo]C[martin97 [-\]: it doesnt do much 
martin97 [-\]: no weak groups around 
Song17 [4d\]: separates
Song17 [4d\]: wait a bit :P
Song17 [4d\]: this move is huge
]
;W[bn]
;B[ap]
;W[er]C[Song17 [4d\]: f2 
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;B[fr]
;W[fs]
;B[eq]C[gosei [2d\]: its close black can come back
bert [?\]: hmm, why not e3 after f2
Song17 [4d\]: b seems calm
Uberdude [3d\]: i think white should have t4 earlier, before black got o2
Song17 [4d\]: very easy for b to manage f4 
]
;W[ip]C[Arhiman [3d\]: w looks a couple points ahead, territory wise
]
;B[jo]C[gosei [2d\]: yes, but black still have some potential
gosei [2d\]: so 
gosei [2d\]: even maybe
Uberdude [3d\]: t not f
Uberdude [3d\]: because now can saefly t3
Uberdude [3d\]: so want to exchange t4 s3 earlier for 2 point yose gain
]
;W[io]
;B[jn]C[Uberdude [3d\]: or else s7 lost meaning
zaphodb [3d\]: given the ridiculous shape of f4 now, was there a viable alternative at the time? g2 maybe?
rosi [2d?\]: still o10 separates
gosei [2d\]: i feel black will win
GodofGo [6d\]: yes i fancy b now
wade [5d\]: any results from other top group games?
Arhiman [3d\]: only b got points in the last moves
gosei [2d\]: dusan resigned
wade [5d\]: i meant not broadcasted :) but thx
gosei [2d\]: :)
GodofGo [6d\]: now there's even weakness in left side w group with b7 or even c7 
]
;W[cm]
;B[ls]C[Arhiman [3d\]: here you go
]
;W[js]C[martin97 [-\]: was c7 good?
GodofGo [6d\]: yes but now b gets sente
GodofGo [6d\]: c7 kind of inevitable
martin97 [-\]: i mean b c7
]
;B[kj]C[GodofGo [6d\]: hmm probably would stick with b7 
wade [5d\]: c7 was on good timing i think
GodofGo [6d\]: c7 w can b7 not much damage done
Song17 [4d\]: still it seems that w is leading
martin97 [-\]: yep
gosei [2d\]: you still bet on w?
wade [5d\]: but if b b7 then w in trouble
GodofGo [6d\]: i think b will win this
gosei [2d\]: yes
martin97 [-\]: yes b+
GodofGo [6d\]: now b has o10 and w needs to defend again
gosei [2d\]: there is no good endgame sequenze for w and black ha alot potential
Weishenme [4d\]: aiming at O10 ?
]
;W[ii]C[wade [5d\]: if b h7 can he kill j3?
zaphodb [3d\]: this may not be sente anymore
SIscurge [4d\]: ha?
]
;B[hh]C[bert [?\]: m8 
]
;W[sp]
;B[sq]C[gosei [2d\]: t3 looks possible
GodofGo [6d\]: no w will be alive even if b has h7
gosei [2d\]: its a loss ifhe lives
wade [5d\]: pushing from g4 after h4 right
GodofGo [6d\]: but h7 still very very big
tornadotry [1k\]: ali so strong
GodofGo [6d\]: yes
GodofGo [6d\]: if w connects this if i were b i might go straight for o10
wade [5d\]: EGC: time pls :)
SIscurge [4d\]: actually, couldnt b have tenukied this?
Song17 [4d\]: l10 aims at o10 , right?
GodofGo [6d\]: yes possible
gosei [2d\]: he is confident of winning either way
SIscurge [4d\]: seems point dont matter in this game anymore
SIscurge [4d\]: points*
gosei [2d\]: so need to risk anything
bert [?\]: o10 o11
GodofGo [6d\]: but better to exchange t3 t5 first i guess
SIscurge [4d\]: w wont connect
bert [?\]: i read w can still connect after o10
SIscurge [4d\]: i hope :D
SIscurge [4d\]: how?
gosei [2d\]: id black peep w must connect
gosei [2d\]: if
GodofGo [6d\]: w probably played this move too quickly
]
;W[np]C[GodofGo [6d\]: hmm
GodofGo [6d\]: ah i see
wade [5d\]: s3 works
wade [5d\]: for b i mean
]
;B[so]C[SIscurge [4d\]: yap
backpack1 [2d\]: is Johannes Obenaus vs Pop already finished?
gosei [2d\]: if this is just woring its over
gosei [2d\]: working
GodofGo [6d\]: w aiming s3 but now just nothing
GodofGo [6d\]: b+
gosei [2d\]: he must have two aimings...
]
;W[oq]
;B[or]C[GodofGo [6d\]: i am not sure what w is doing lol
wade [5d\]: giving b some pts :P
itepilah [1d\]: how nice of him
SIscurge [4d\]: he wants to cover o10 in sente
egc6 [?\]: B +r
GodofGo [6d\]: lol
Arhiman [3d\]: weird stuff
bert [?\]: missread
Arhiman [3d\]: w just tilted after l10
SIscurge [4d\]: :(
gosei [2d\]: vlack is ahead,no way to win for w
bert [?\]: with ecg going polymental, that could be expected
Arhiman [3d\]: :)
TurtleDove [2d?\]: thanks for today's relay egc6
gosei [2d\]: w resgned?
liusasori [3d\]: yes$
TurtleDove [2d?\]: yup
gosei [2d\]: thank you
gosei [2d\]: didnt see:)
gosei [2d\]: thanks too
Song17 [4d\]: oh ^^;
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