(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]OT[20/600 Canadian]
GN[Czech Championship R5 Jan Prokop (W-6d) x Lukas Podpera (B-7d)]PW[Jan Prokop]PB[Lukáš Podpěra]WR[6d]BR[7d]DT[2018-06-30]RO[5]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]
;B[cq]
;W[pp]
;B[dq]
;W[dc]
;B[ce]
;W[od]
;B[oe]
;W[qc]
;B[pd]
;W[pc]
;B[nd]
;W[oc]
;B[nc]
;W[rd]
;B[re]
;W[ne]
;B[of]
;W[rc]C[MCR2018a [?\]: tewari into sansan joseki
]
;B[qf]
;W[pe]
;B[qe]
;W[nb]
;B[mb]
;W[ld]
;B[lc]
;W[me]
;B[ob]
;W[na]
;B[mc]
;W[pb]
;B[kd]
;W[ke]
;B[jd]
;W[je]
;B[id]
;W[ie]
;B[fc]C[Kwetal [4d\]: white not happy
]
;W[de]
;B[df]
;W[ee]
;B[cd]
;W[ec]C[mcpudding [8k\]: why not i dont see him crying?
]
;B[cc]C[Kwetal [4d\]: j15 k15 l15 these stones look ineffecient
Omicron [1d\]: O19 was a mistake?
]
;W[gc]C[ogolony [-\]: big boys don't cry
Omicron [1d\]: Men cry at night
]
;B[hd]C[liusasori [5d\]: I like h16 by b, it's so calm
eladzap [-\]: unless they are chess players, then they always cry
rats [?\]: o19 is just avoiding the complications
Kwetal [4d\]: yes feeling says black to be better
Omicron [1d\]: after O19 w commited to the corner because Q18 by b would have killed
Omicron [1d\]: if be connected without the P18 O19 exchange the corner would be alive
Omicron [1d\]: b*
Omicron [1d\]: so it was good exchange for b
]
;W[ff]C[Kwetal [4d\]: what i hate about promising positions is that you can spoil them so quickly
rats [?\]: the details of what black gains in that part is something of about 1 point in end game if white backs off
]
;B[gb]C[Kwetal [4d\]: well if that one point means an extra eyeshape it mounts up to 30 points about
]
;W[dh]C[rats [?\]: n19 is sente, but i don't think that is going to matter too much
Omicron [1d\]: what I was trying to say is that b got N17 in sente
Omicron [1d\]: because of O19
Kwetal [4d\]: yes i like your analyses omicron
Omicron [1d\]: thank you
Omicron [1d\]: can't b just tenuki this?
Omicron [1d\]: he is alive in the corner
]
;B[cg]
;W[fh]
;B[lf]
;W[le]
;B[fd]
;W[ge]
;B[gd]C[ftroiset [7d\]: yes, O13 would have been much better
jkljlkmkdf: anyone leelaing this position? I bet b is over 66%
]
;W[he]C[MCR2018a [?\]: wow, why so passively?
]
;B[qn]C[Omicron [1d\]: I didn't think connection was needed
MCR2018a [?\]: there was the cut, wasnt it?
]
;W[pg]C[gg [3d\]: ye
]
;B[pf]C[gg [3d\]: dangerous
Omicron [1d\]: but w coul have let b take G15 and block\\
]
;W[pi]
;B[ri]C[MCR2018a [?\]: but why not in any better shape, like J13?
ftroiset [7d\]: leela thinks this connection is very bad
Omicron [1d\]: oh I see
Omicron [1d\]: b could still cut again with what I suggested
ftroiset [7d\]: this slide is a little too wide
]
;W[rh]
;B[qh]C[ftroiset [7d\]: see ?
]
;W[qi]
;B[rg]
;W[rj]
;B[sh]C[gg [3d\]: i think it about the J14 cut not g15 stone
recursion [?\]: maybe it is to make sabaki with the group and leave r6 as light
]
;W[qo]
;B[pn]C[recursion [?\]: ...and black makes it heavy :D
gg [3d\]: and j13 not doing that much
ftroiset [7d\]: but now b is again clearly ahead
gg [3d\]: true
]
;W[nq]
;B[qk]C[recursion [?\]: I think the game is pretty balanced but b has sente and better potential on the left
MCR2018a [?\]: is the corner W's in this shape or is it unclear?
recursion [?\]: bottom right?
]
;W[pk]C[ftroiset [7d\]: no, very easy to invade at sansan or Q2
ftroiset [7d\]: but this attck is more urgent
MCR2018a [?\]: but sansan can
]
;B[rk]C[MCR2018a [?\]: cant live locally, right?
]
;W[nh]C[ftroiset [7d\]: too passive for b, and this w answer was not urgent
recursion [?\]: I wouldn't call this an attack, more like settling black's stones in a mutually urgent area
ftroiset [7d\]: so now e4 is huge
MCR2018a [?\]: for the center u mean?
ftroiset [7d\]: yes, mostly ; a shape move too
recursion [?\]: it influences the left around 4th to fifth line and consequently centre, plus white playing e4 and e3 would be pretty good for white
]
;B[mh]C[recursion [?\]: Lukas wants to argue about white's wall instead :D
Omicron [1d\]: casual attachment
ftroiset [7d\]: b is trying too hard here
recursion [?\]: things are going to get rocky for black
MCR2018a [?\]: well B is alive everywhere
recursion [?\]: the easiest stones to kill are your own, MCR
Omicron [1d\]: how much reading do you think is behind this?
sykta: at least 32
recursion [?\]: only god can answer that :D
Omicron [1d\]: looks to me like the attach when you don't know what to do
recursion [?\]: could just be a probe to see how white responds
MCR2018a [?\]: these tsukes I don
MCR2018a [?\]: dont understand, y not cap or geta instead?
recursion [?\]: maybe b wants to push and cut from p14
sykta: i see a stick and a weak group
sykta: can they be split
sykta: w connecting his 2 groups would give good position toward center
jkljlk: test
sykta: at least b has aji localy
Omicron [1d\]: if w plays O13 would this just be a good exchange for b?
recursion [?\]: m11 would be an epic reply
recursion [?\]: all in
Omicron [1d\]: I think that's the idea
sykta: w to make shape not forcing the connection ?
ptitlou [1d\]: what is the actual results table ?is there a website ?
MCR2018a [?\]: http://goweb.cz/2018/mistrovstvi-republiky-2018-frydek-mistek/
MCR2018a [?\]: only in czech though
ftroiset [7d\]: leela suggests firmly not to answer and play e4 for w
recursion [?\]: sounds reasonable
recursion [?\]: I'd seriously consider tenuki here
ptitlou [1d\]: thanks
sykta: suggest firmly ?
MCR2018a [?\]: the right group being light?
]
;W[mg]C[recursion [?\]: not the biggest area on the board, no
ftroiset [7d\]: now the fight is possible for a few moves, but e4 is still more urgent
sykta: e4 is big not urgent
MCR2018a [?\]: why did it becolme more urgent than b4?
]
;B[mi]
;W[ni]
;B[mk]C[sykta: b to run 
MCR2018a [?\]: B reducing the center or?
Hobbes [1d\]: b attacking o11?
sykta: reducing center
sykta: would be nice if he can force the dame gote connection
MCR2018a [?\]: yea
SImasarkzz: c12
ftroiset [7d\]: now e4 gets smaller
MCR2018a [?\]: I see
MCR2018a [?\]: Bróňa? :)
]
;W[mm]C[ftroiset [7d\]: n7  was best
sykta: fighting back
sykta: game should get messy soon
MCR2018a [?\]: according to leela?
]
;B[pl]C[ftroiset [7d\]: as b is safe on the side, this attack goes nowhere
ftroiset [7d\]: and this was therefore quite bad for b
Omicron [1d\]: better to use ELF
Omicron [1d\]: it's much stronger currently
MCR2018a [?\]: is it?
ftroiset [7d\]: mmm... This is the last Leela net, probably very close to ELF now
ftroiset [7d\]: but anyway, all this is already superhuman, so enough to comment amateur games
Kwetal [4d\]: elf-leela, it's all the same they see things humans can't
]
;W[nk]C[sykta: well elf used facebook infrastrutures while leela is community managed, no wonder its weaker for now
Omicron [1d\]: ELF had 83% over the previous network
]
;B[ml]
;W[nl]
;B[lm]C[Omicron [1d\]: but in a month or so a 40 blocks will be released
]
;W[ln]C[Omicron [1d\]: it won ELF in the Tencent tournament
MCR2018a [?\]: wait, that thing has just started
Omicron [1d\]: only second to FineArt
MCR2018a [?\]: and LZ is the best there, no?
Kwetal [4d\]: black has lots of cash and safe groups, so making life in the centre should be reducing most of whites potential
]
;B[mn]
;W[nm]C[Kwetal [4d\]: all in all i'd say game favours black here
]
;B[kn]C[Omicron [1d\]: hmm
sykta: but w has komi
Omicron [1d\]: should w cut now?
Omicron [1d\]: I'd cut
Kwetal [4d\]: that entire wall on line 15 seems so useless
]
;W[lo]
;B[kl]
;W[ko]
;B[jn]C[sykta: walls are useless, you can climb over
MCR2018a [?\]: will W make a nice bottom side?
ftroiset [7d\]: the side is getting white
Omicron [1d\]: just use a 100.5 foot ladder!
sykta: the side ? 
Kwetal [4d\]: yes white has points on the lower side
sykta: l3 isnt w's yet but ok
Kwetal [4d\]: f4 or k5 next?
sykta: is there a sente ?
BadPlay [7k?\]: h4 looks kinda interesting
ftroiset [7d\]: k5 much better (with r10 first, perhaps
Omicron [1d\]: b is about 10 points ahead
Omicron [1d\]: with komi
ftroiset [7d\]: what ?
Omicron [1d\]: according to my count that is
ftroiset [7d\]: the deeper it calculate, the closer Leela thins the game is
ftroiset [7d\]: now 48.4 for w
Omicron [1d\]: so pretty even
Omicron [1d\]: interesting
Omicron [1d\]: was it better for b before?
MCR2018a [?\]: ftroiset ur 1d?
]
;W[jo]C[ftroiset [7d\]: EGA 2d, yes
trifon [9k\]: k10 
]
;B[in]C[trifon [9k\]: m10 k10 
Omicron [1d\]: K10 only move
sykta: lol
ftroiset [7d\]: F4 now
Kwetal [4d\]: as i said ^^
]
;W[fq]C[MCR2018a [?\]: this is getting too big, isnt it?
sykta: oh this is new
]
;B[ep]
;W[hp]C[MCR2018a [?\]: still close? :D
Kwetal [4d\]: oh f3 to seal that lowerside.hmm 
sykta: game looks close
]
;B[nn]
;W[oo]
;B[on]
;W[mj]
;B[lj]
;W[nj]C[MCR2018a [?\]: arent these bad exchanges?
]
;B[ki]C[ftroiset [7d\]: very bad for w
sykta: lol
MCR2018a [?\]: but he's much stronger than both of us, so
ftroiset [7d\]: now b is at 70%
trifon [9k\]: -_-
]
;W[jj]
;B[ji]
;W[ij]
;B[kj]
;W[qj]
;B[sj]C[Kwetal [4d\]: i can't tell who is winning
MCR2018a [?\]: why did he make the center exchanges b4 connecting?
BadPlay [7k?\]: yellow is clearly in the lead
sykta: but w is a 100% focus
sykta: and leela cant calculate that
Kwetal [4d\]: white needs to play o13 it seems so all them moves were kikashi before living
trifon [9k\]: d8 -b
MCR2018a [?\]: I know
sykta: cant w live localy or get miai ?
MCR2018a [?\]: but werent they bad?
yisetol: nope, white can tenuki
MCR2018a [?\]: oh
]
;W[ch]C[sykta: if w can get sente here i dont think the exchanges were bad
MCR2018a [?\]: so W can live?
ftroiset [7d\]: actually, b should have cut at O13 instead of connecting
sykta: what ?
ptitlou [1d\]: o13 p13 o14 p10 w is alive
MCR2018a [?\]: I see now
]
;B[np]C[MCR2018a [?\]: ez life :D
MCR2018a [?\]: the last year game between the two was a half-pointer for Jan I think
trifon [9k\]: o5 
MCR2018a [?\]: decicing the champion
yisetol: with c12 i guess white is okay
MCR2018a [?\]: this is annoying I guess
MCR2018a [?\]: with Q5 sente?
sykta: w can give up p5
trifon [9k\]: o5 p4 n4 
MCR2018a [?\]: yea true
]
;W[mp]C[MCR2018a [?\]: so as I expected
]
;B[qq]C[sykta: what about j5 trifon ?
ftroiset [7d\]: leela still thing b winning
MCR2018a [?\]: this looks complex
Kwetal [4d\]: i can spoil either sides game easily
]
;W[pq]
;B[ro]C[sykta: only one spot empty
trifon [9k\]: r2 
sykta: tenuki
BadPlay [7k?\]: r4 
]
;W[cm]
;B[qr]C[BadPlay [7k?\]: f7 ?
]
;W[jl]
;B[ng]
;W[oj]C[trifon [9k\]: p13 o14 q12 
]
;B[ol]C[EdhelDil [3k\]: o13
BadPlay [7k?\]: p13 o14 p9 
sykta: p9
EdhelDil [3k\]: p13 (same séquence)
]
;W[ok]
;B[mf]
;W[eq]
;B[do]
;W[bo]C[MCR2018a [?\]: nice
]
;B[cp]C[trifon [9k\]: f6 
]
;W[en]
;B[fp]
;W[gp]C[MCR2018a [?\]: B not even alive now
EdhelDil [3k\]: b4
trifon [9k\]: b2 
ogolony [-\]: b6 
BadPlay [7k?\]: e7 
trifon [9k\]: f6 
sykta: keep going there are still empty spots
BadPlay [7k?\]: xD
MCR2018a [?\]: none of u guessed correctly
]
;B[cn]
;W[bn]
;B[dm]C[EdhelDil [3k\]: c6 looks bad
]
;W[dn]
;B[co]C[MCR2018a [?\]: was that to get B4 sente?
sykta: c6 gives c5 sente + outside aji
BadPlay [7k?\]: i'm not sure b guessed correctly either
yisetol: how is time for the players?
sykta: its sunny
MCR2018a [?\]: B 37, W 6 mins
trifon [9k\]: g6 
]
;W[cl]C[sykta: c8
yisetol: thanks, and byoyomi is?
EdhelDil [3k\]: w could even do f7? 
]
;B[fn]
;W[em]
;B[fm]C[skotak [3k\]: byoyomi is 20 stones for 10 minutes
MCR2018a [?\]: pozdrav babičku :D
skotak [3k\]: jsem jeste doma
sykta: dont swear on us with words we dont understand
MCR2018a [?\]: :D
skotak [3k\]: kdo zapisuje mcr2018c,d?
MCR2018a [?\]: Michal a Honza
sykta: still own a move localy ?
]
;W[lk]C[trifon [9k\]: l9 
BadPlay [7k?\]: how about w f9 , sacrificing e6 stones
]
;B[ll]C[MCR2018a [?\]: what's the meaning of this?
sykta: k9 is sente now
MCR2018a [?\]: ah, a probe u mean?
sykta: i dont see how it helps
sykta: nah really i dont have any idea about this move
MCR2018a [?\]: :D¨
sykta: not a timesuji ?
Omicron [1d\]: it helps because of what you said
sykta: isnt there something with the shape ?
]
;W[jk]
;B[kk]
;W[fl]C[Omicron [1d\]: b might not answer K9 without this exchange
]
;B[gl]
;W[fk]C[MCR2018a [?\]: so it was the proper order bz W, rite?
sykta: rite
MCR2018a [?\]: if B refused to give him the sente
MCR2018a [?\]: W would gain
]
;B[eo]
;W[el]C[MCR2018a [?\]: W almost in byoyomi
sykta: and i think bs shape would have suffered too
sykta: looks like its time to count
]
;B[or]C[sykta: w made quite a good mid game
MCR2018a [?\]: yea
MCR2018a [?\]: well not for the players themselves anymore I suppose
sykta: the players are updating their count while playing
]
;W[nr]C[Omicron [1d\]: that's hard for me to do
MCR2018a [?\]: y not ogeima instead?
]
;B[pr]C[sykta: because of o4 ?
EdhelDil [3k\]: because "updating their ogeima while playing" has no sense? ;)
]
;W[no]C[trifon [9k\]: l13 m13 j12 
]
;B[ma]
;W[oa]
;B[bh]
;W[bi]
;B[bg]C[trifon [9k\]: g7 
MCR2018a [?\]: W in byoyomi
sykta: how much time b ?
MCR2018a [?\]: 32
sykta: oh dear
sykta: thx
MCR2018a [?\]: gote, rite?
]
;W[kb]C[sykta: but big
MCR2018a [?\]: not denying that :)
]
;B[kc]C[sykta: yeah rite :)
MCR2018a [?\]: so how's the score?
Omicron [1d\]: w has 56.5
]
;W[fb]C[sykta: thats precise
MCR2018a [?\]: and B?
sykta: about the same
Omicron [1d\]: only 50?
MCR2018a [?\]: B around 60 I count
sykta: lets say 55 ?
Omicron [1d\]: I didn't count the lower left corner
MCR2018a [?\]: no?
MCR2018a [?\]: at least 2 points there
MCR2018a [?\]: or 3
Omicron [1d\]: ok
MCR2018a [?\]: so loox close
Kwetal [4d\]: yes within 5 points to either side
Omicron [1d\]: oh b has 3 more captures too
MCR2018a [?\]: but u didnt innclude comi in W's
Omicron [1d\]: didn't count that
sykta: but b has 1/2h to figure this out
Omicron [1d\]: I did include komi
Omicron [1d\]: I didn't include captures
sykta: fortunaly w can think on b's time
MCR2018a [?\]: I count around 60 for W with komi
]
;B[cb]C[EdhelDil [3k\]: c18 good
MCR2018a [?\]: seems close¨
]
;W[db]C[sykta: g13 ?
trifon [9k\]: g7 g6 h7 h8 j7 
Omicron [1d\]: G19 first would be better
MCR2018a [?\]: oh, W has the H18 clamp
Omicron [1d\]: ohh
Omicron [1d\]: right
EdhelDil [3k\]: h18 is b
]
;B[hb]
;W[dr]
;B[cr]
;W[er]
;B[bp]
;W[ii]C[Floyds [1k\]: b should be ahead by 2-3 points now?
]
;B[io]
;W[ip]
;B[ns]C[trifon [9k\]: p13 q12 
]
;W[ms]C[Kwetal [4d\]: i get B +0.5
]
;B[os]C[MCR2018a [?\]: I count B 70 
]
;W[lr]C[jjioioigf: black m13 is sente i think because it threads black p12
trifon [9k\]: k13 
ftroiset [7d\]: after a very bad mistake of b, w is almost sure of winning
BadPlay [7k?\]: b10 looks painful
MCR2018a [?\]: which one?
MCR2018a [?\]: what's the leela's %?
sykta: a very bad mistake ?
ftroiset [7d\]: B4 was the losing move
MCR2018a [?\]: too small?
sykta: say waht ?
ftroiset [7d\]: should have payed in the center  (J11)
MCR2018a [?\]: how can u say a losing move, nobody has lost yet
]
;B[ai]
;W[bj]
;B[ih]
;W[hh]
;B[ig]C[sykta: hes listening to the whispers of leela oracle
trifon [9k\]: k13 
jjioioigf: now black f15 gets stronger it seems
ftroiset [7d\]: at this stage, very little hope for a new upset
bert [?\]: b o14 is sente, trifon
]
;W[qp]C[trifon [9k\]: p13 
]
;B[rp]C[sykta: lol
]
;W[gm]
;B[hg]
;W[gg]C[trifon [9k\]: o14 p13 m13 l14 k14 l13 
]
;B[hi]
;W[gh]C[bert [?\]: then w o10 group dies, trifon
]
;B[hm]
;W[gn]
;B[hk]
;W[hj]
;B[cs]C[MCR2018a [?\]: y not hane?
MCR2018a [?\]: ?
yisetol: now b has e1
Kwetal [4d\]: b aims e1 next
]
;W[ds]C[Veedee: c1 is better! Next e1 is sente
]
;B[ao]
;W[bm]C[Kwetal [4d\]: this yose battle ends in a half pointer 
MCR2018a [?\]: dejavu? :D
Kwetal [4d\]: i think black to win
Kwetal [4d\]: what does Leela say Dennis?
MCR2018a [?\]: N5
ftroiset [7d\]: looks very close, with a winning move for b at p13, but it sis almost double sente
]
;B[da]
;W[ea]
;B[ca]C[MCR2018a [?\]: this was at least 6 points?
]
;W[gk]
;B[hl]C[Kwetal [4d\]: yes big gyaku yose
ftroiset [7d\]: and now w wins by playing p13
MCR2018a [?\]: is it sente?
Kwetal [4d\]: if black plays p13 it's obviously sente
MCR2018a [?\]: for W
ftroiset [7d\]: no, but big sente yose behind
Kwetal [4d\]: for white it's therefor gyaku yose and huge
]
;W[jg]
;B[kg]
;W[jf]
;B[jh]C[Kwetal [4d\]: thrilling endgame this makes then
]
;W[og]
;B[nf]C[ftroiset [7d\]: smaller, but still winning for w
MCR2018a [?\]: y do u say gyaku? the only time I have seen that word was in The Honinbo tournament book :D
]
;W[om]
;B[pm]
;W[fo]
;B[ef]
;W[fe]
;B[eg]
;W[eh]C[Kwetal [4d\]: so white took p13 and the game then
bert [?\]: mutual
ftroiset [7d\]: 80% for w now
]
;B[ho]C[MCR2018a [?\]: only?
]
;W[an]
;B[ap]
;W[aj]
;B[ah]C[ftroiset [7d\]: usually, this is total win for humans (except when the game is very close-
]
;W[go]C[ftroiset [7d\]: which is the case here :-)
Cool [2k\]: p3 
]
;B[sd]
;W[sc]
;B[se]
;W[dg]
;B[ph]
;W[oh]C[MCR2018a [?\]: a msistaker?
]
;B[qg]
;W[ga]C[bert [?\]: p3 nothing
ftroiset [7d\]: no longer so close (probably 3 pts
Xorax [2d\]: b p3 now?
MCR2018a [?\]: N5
ftroiset [7d\]: p3 is better
bert [?\]: w p3, b n5
Xorax [2d\]: he wont n5 for sure
]
;B[oq]
;W[op]
;B[mo]C[bert [?\]: p3 and n5 are just dame points
]
;W[hf]
;B[ha]
;W[eb]
;B[cf]
;W[fg]
;B[fa]C[Kwetal [4d\]: ko for the game?
ftroiset [7d\]: all this is dame or 1pt gote now
MCR2018a [?\]: so who won?
]
;W[np]
;B[ga]C[Kwetal [4d\]: you are the transcriber, you tell us ^^
]
;W[hn]
;B[im]
;W[jm]
;B[km]
;W[ed]
;B[kf]
;W[gi]C[Xorax [2d\]: ko for the game?
]
;B[il]
;W[ik]
;B[if]
;W[dd]
;B[md]
;W[po]C[MCR2018a [?\]: that's it folks
MCR2018a [?\]: but Dennis already knows :)
Kwetal [4d\]: i know too, B +0.5 as fortold
bert [?\]: se knows
ftroiset [7d\]: of course not :-)
MCR2018a [?\]: B+0,5
])
